Wednesday, January 31, 2007

Kill the poor



A libertarian government would abolish state welfare. State-sanctioned coercion would be phased out, and the provision of welfare would become the exclusive domain of voluntary charity.

This policy always meets the same objection, expressed here by Commie Mutant Traitor.
And what happens to the genuinely needy if the voluntary charity of you and your fellow selfless wealthy isn't sufficient to meet even the bare minimum of their needs for food, shelter, and healthcare? Plenty of people are happy to ignore their moral obligations, or disagree that such obligations even exist, so the burden placed on such paragons of virtue as yourself in the absence of state intervention would be quite large.
I might as well state the obvious, and answer Commie Mutant Traitor's rhetorical question. If voluntary charity isn't sufficient to meet even the bare minimum of their needs for food, shelter, and healthcare, then the genuinely needy will die - just as they do now. But the question is hypothetical. In New Zealand, the number of genuinely needy is small, and public largesse is large. In New Freeland, everyone's bare minimum needs for food, shelter, and healthcare will be met.

Still, wouldn't it be nice if those pesky poor people were someone else's problem? Here's an idea. New Zealand could secede from South Auckland. Our commitment to the welfare of South Auckland's poor and needy would then come under "foreign aid" - resulting in a 97% cost saving to the tax-payer.
 

7 Comments:

At 9:44 PM, Blogger Rich said...

Bit of a bugger flying anywhere though, the nations main airports in South Auckland. And the substation for all of Auckland's power. And at least one mobile companies main switch. Plus would we have to pay a transit tax to drive from Auckland to anywhere south, or would an Israeli style tunnel get built.

Plus, John Key's allegedly ghetto is in *Central* Auckland. South Auckland is south of the Manakau/tamaki isthmus.

I've had a better idea - we could sell the South Island to Australia.

 
At 4:18 PM, Blogger scotttoon said...

I presume a libertarian might say "that would never happen" or "if it happened the person involved is probably a sociopath" and "people only die now because there is not enough libertarianism".

I note I am not entirely convinced but there you go.

 
At 6:09 PM, Anonymous Luke H said...

We have to remember that libertarianism isn't a utopia - some mentally ill people may always be beyond help. Let's face it, human nature ensures that we will always have plenty of problems to put with.

I do think that having a bouyant, tax-free economy and zero taxes sapping my income would make me a more generous person. If someone was starving on the street below my house I'd give them some leftovers no question - and I think that's true for most NZers.

 
At 11:54 PM, Blogger Andrew Brown said...

I'm personally very socially liberal, but love our welfare system. I dislike poor people, so to me, the best answer, is give them money so they're not poor any more! viola

 
At 9:42 AM, Blogger XplicitMan said...

it must be nice to live free from any moral compass. However For all the people I hear talking about hoarding money from the poor or let em drown rhetoric I can't ever figure out what they have contributed to humanity or the economy themselves

theyre usually typical socially isolated parasites with no discernable patents innovation or talent (which is the primary reason for their posture above) that has increased the economy of their countries or made life better for their country or the world at large

they too just take resources..and even though they get it easier (usually for being at the right place at the right time) they still don't won't to share

 
At 11:35 PM, Blogger Andy Moore said...

All Christchurch is encouraged to make the time to attend the Public March To Protest Anti-Smacking Bill.

When? Wednesday 28 March 12pm
Where? Victoria Square (close to Cathedral Square
Speakers: Simon Barnett and Gary McCormick from MoreFM's show Si&Gary, Ali Jones from NewsTalk ZB.

www.politik.co.nz has all the information plus a map of where to meet.

This is quite likely the most significant protest march you will ever attend - do not miss it. We must show the Government - who have been ignoring the public - exactly what us Kiwis do think on this crucial issue.

Good parents will be criminalised if Bradford's bill becomes Law.

Make sure that it doesn't by supporting the march!

There will be marches also in Wellington, Nelson and Fielding. www.politik.co.nz has all the information on these marches, plus news updates, polls to vote in, petition forms and info on how to email the MPs.

 
At 12:20 AM, Anonymous Barbara said...

MARCH ON PARLIAMENT

Against Anti Smacking Bill

DO YOU VALUE THE RIGHT TO RAISE YOUR CHILDREN THE WAY YOU CHOOSE, NOW OR IN THE FUTURE?

Then do something about it BEFORE it's too late!

Join us in a PEACEFUL protest

Wednesday 28th March 2007

Beginning at Civic Square at 12pm then advancing to Parliament

http://www.FamilyIntegrity.org.nz/page/844292 has all the information.

This is quite likely the most significant protest march you will ever attend - do not miss it. We must show the Government - who have been ignoring the public - exactly what Kiwis do think on this crucial issue.

Good parents will be criminalised if Bradford's bill becomes Law.

Make sure that it doesn't by supporting the march!

There will be marches also in Christchurch, Nelson and Fielding. http://www.FamilyIntegrity.org.nz/page/844292 has all the information on these marches, plus news updates, petition forms and info on how to email the MPs.

*This march will be peaceful, and children will be present. If anyone turns violent, we will be helping the police cart you off to jail.

For more information, see

http://smackingback.blogspot.com/
or e-mail
antiantismacking@gmail.com

Pass the word around about this please

 

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